Sunday, June 28, 2009

Dreamscapes

Dreams can be really weird sometimes. At times, dreams are ordinary and believable, sometimes they are completely out of this world. There's this theory that dreams are manifestations of one's subconscious thought, and yeah, some of my dreams do seem to reveal my hidden desires, but some of the dreams I have come out of left field. They don't make any sense at all.

I have always been fascinated with dreams. Way back in college, I even did a research paper on the subject--- but I didn't really get any definite answers. The general consensus seems to be that dreams are manifestations of the unconscious. But that conclusion leads to even more questions, and to many, even doubt. Take this weird dream I had last night:

From what I can remember, it started with me flying through space, but I somehow ended up in an igloo on top of Mt. Everest. Some of my friends and relatives were there, along with a few strangers. It was a rest house of sorts. One of my cousins was skateboarding on the icy ground, he couldn't stop and subsequently fell off a ledge. Then somehow, the place was a became an icy movie theater, i was in a balcony, looking down at the audience below... and there was an event: it was a movie premier. Then the screening had to stop because the stars of the movie have arrived. They apologized for being late, because there was a storm outside. Then the movie started playing from the beginning again. Then my mother was coming up from the ladder along with my aunts, and they were all wet because of the storm. Then I told them I had to go down to get something important. She told me to be careful, the path is slippery. As soon as I got off the ladder, I was no longer in Mt. Everest, I was in some weird town. I sat on the wet ground, and suddenly a truck passed by, which almost ran over me if I hadn't moved quickly. Then suddenly I was in some living room. I was seated on the floor, then a huge dog was all over me. i thought it was going to bite me, but it only sniffed me all over. It then said something, then proceeded to suck my balls.

I'm not kidding.

Just to make things clear, there's no way I'm having thoughts like that, even subconsciously, and never in my wildest, most horribly nauseating fantasies do i even wish for some dog to suck on my balls. Symbolism perhaps? If things in our dreams are symbols, what could they mean? On a scientific perspective, the subconscious theory seems more plausible, along with conscious thoughts, things that we are preoccupied with, manifesting themselves even in our sleep. But I don't really think my conscious nor my subconscious thoughts could be related to that dream i just had. Are dreams merely random images? Do they make sense at all? Are we putting too much thought into nothing? Seeing that there are no definite answers, dreams remain to be in the realm of mysteries for now, and would therefore pique our curiosities indefinitely.

6 comments:

sattvicwarrior said...

part 1 of two comments [ my response was to long so it has to be done in two parts]
Symbolism perhaps?
. absolutely and without a doubt, and REAL… easy actually for interpretation...
If things in our dreams are symbols, what could they mean?
.. ok this is REAL easy like I mentioned.
the DOG positioned in said place on your anatomy as you described is nothing more than an emotion.[ animals, and in this case a dog is a symbol for emotions]. ill keep this simple for no other reason I'm sure you not interested in any diatribe, and this is just general anyway.].. ok ok where was I??.
yeah . step back a little .
you mentioned the “truck” that [ symbolically] in this situation is a primal symbol for a sexual energy [ one of many] .. it in some ways although sexual in its nature has to [ in your case] be tied in with free floating general anxiety. that's all it is. it has NOTHING to do with sexuality or sex at all. its just a a quick case of misdirected anxiety]. which you brought to the surface [ symbolically] and turned it into a little bit of something you can handle on an emotional level [ one on one] with more control than being run over by spontaneous energy for THAT PARTICUALR situation .,
that's all it is. it WASN’T a DOG it was a SYMBOL for misdirected anxiety.. and the basis of that energy coming out of your consciousness was the TRUCK. .. you “ run “ in the fast lane so to speak. and this was a PERFECTLY NORMAL symbolic response from your subconscious dealing with free floating anxiety.. honest. I AINT kiddin ya. [ see I told ya it was simple]
..
On a scientific perspective, the subconscious theory seems more plausible, along with conscious thoughts, things that we are preoccupied with, manifesting themselves even in our sleep.
.. not “even” but DO manifest. you answered you own question . . but you turned it into your “ in experienced self” as the logical or more clinical self that you normally deal with in an everyday work atmosphere.
But I don't really think my conscious nor my subconscious thoughts could be related to that dream i just had.
.. wrong., they are most assuredly related in the fact that the sub-conscious self works more on a subtle plane and this is the way it answers itself. of course its not your “awake” side that does that . it’s the Sleep side that does that .both go hand in hand. the awake and dream state are all a part of an particular consciousness that deals with the ego. they feed off of each other

sattvicwarrior said...

PART 2 OF ONE COMMENT
Are dreams merely random images?
.. EVERYTHING is a random image. there is NO sense of permanence in any of it or of anything . its all illusion because of its transitory nature. so thusly. the “awake” state is actually no different than the “dream state”. yet. in the actuality of “ being” there is a consciousness beyond the waking and dreaming state. IT is something that has to be experienced and not intellectualized to be talked about . That most certainly is not done in this format.
Do they make sense at all?
..only to it self. [ ego]. as long as there are concepts precepts and notions [ all associated with the thinking principle which by its transitory nature resides in the ego it can only make sense for no other reason it has to confirm its own self, and that's not gonna happen because like I stated before , its all illusion , there is no sense of permanence so it creates this “ squirrel cage” type of existence[ mentality] to constantly confirm its self. and therefore symbolism [ from the subconscious] is just another viewing area for that to take place.. wonderful thing this mind [ego] it constantly reinvents itself through concepts precepts and notions . the entire world around you is and has been created as a symbol for what you think is real by ones own mind. .

Are we putting too much thought into nothing?
. dude. you have NO idea how profound that statement of yours is.
Thinking by its own volition has no sense of permanence because of like I stated before is transitory in its nature, its NOTHING. its perpetuates ignorance. and this ignorance is what rules the world. in fact it rules the universe. scientifically one can prove NONE of its exists. . if you really take the time you can see even the UNIVERSE does not exist. .
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Seeing that there are no definite answers, dreams remain to be in the realm of mysteries for now, and would therefore pique our curiosities indefinitely.
,. to say there are no” definite “ answers projects naivety and is knowledge that is assumed.
knowledge is EXPERIENCE. and EXPERIENCE is the divine luminous wisdom that dispels the darkness [ ignorance ] .
intellectualizations of anything dealing with form and consciousness, symbolic or otherwise only confirm that one can perpetuate this illusion they call reality.

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tarnishedsilver said...

I'm sorry, but I really couldn't help but smile. :) That's a pretty lengthy response, I never took you for a psychiatrist. hehe.

Thanks for the detailed interpretations. :)

sattvicwarrior said...

I never took you for a psychiatrist.
.... hmmmmmm i wonder WHAT you formulated of what i "am". no big deal.. .just curious thats all...:)...

tarnishedsilver said...

wait, are you saying you are actually a psychiatrist? :)

You're asking what I formulated about you, regarding work/ occupation?

Based on your blog, and previous comments that you were going on a trip somewhere just to see nature (and you had a lot of those), plus all of your comments about life in general, showing a great deal of wisdom... i just figured you were someone whose in early retirement, just running some private business on the side. :)

haha. that doesn't really make much sense, does it?

sattvicwarrior said...

wait, are you saying you are actually a psychiatrist? :)
..no no im NOT a psychiatrist at all . I know NOTHING about that field. But i have studied a lot of the nature of the mind and such things associated [ symbolism in dreams etc]. i.e. “ sattvicwarrior”
You're asking what I formulated about you, regarding work/ occupation?
generally I was just curious thats all. Actually I was cautious of even asking you anything as you are a very “ focused on one direction” type of man and seem slightly uncomfortable when approached. I was just curious , we all have " ideas or images" of other people .
..Based on your blog, and previous comments that you were going on a trip somewhere just to see nature (and you had a lot of those), plus all of your comments about life in general, showing a great deal of wisdom. i just figured you were someone whose in early retirement, just running some private business on the side. :)
.. thanks for the wisdom " comment. In truth wise men NEVER speak its only fools like me that babble on and on [ I think I said that once before to you . anyway. I DONT work so im NOT retired. and i never ran a business. i guess one could say im just very privileged . i DO tinker with music tho [ piano] lotta stuff on YOU TUBE and painted [ art] just more illusion to add to the world but it keeps me occupied. that's more info than you asked for . no big deal .
haha. that doesn't really make much sense, does it?
.. it makes a LOT of sense. it was thoughtful of you to take a stab at it. I was just curious of the “ picture” you painted of me mentally. the blog thing on my part was a diversion , your blog as I stated before, is JUST like me [ mentally ONLY ] a few years ago, also you’re a brilliant writer, your clarity is “knife cutting” accuracy. Even when your in turmoil. Its rare to see that . That's why I'm so fascinated with your blog.
ok , never mind , ill go back being a “ fly on the wall” thanks for taking the time to respond